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[correctiveshoes621]

Waaah, waah, waah.
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I hate being uneducated. I hate being stupid. Or, moreso, being 'paperless'.

I hate when people just assume that I went to college, and the look on their faces when I tell them I didn't.

I hate not having good stories to tell about dormrooms and lectures or whatever the hell college-educated people talk about. As I said, I wouldn't know.

Sure, there's the fact that neither Robert Smith nor peter gabriel went to college. But it doesn't change the fact that the rest of the world HAS, and with them? I'd have nothing to talk about..nothing of import or wit or value to add.

It's all I've ever had, really. My brain. It was my THING, being 'smart' ('cos my sister 'got the looks') - skipping a grade and winning scholarships and all that bullshit..but, now - at this age, it's caught up to me - and it's driven home to me DAILY how pathetically unwrinkled, stomach-turningly smooth my brain has become, by comparison.

And OH, HELL, YEAH; I hate the MOST ironic fact that the one person I really, really admire came from a privileged, yuppie, private-schools-into-college background - which is exactly what I MARRIED - and RUINED MY LIFE...and told me endlessly to just forget becoming educated and being more than..well, more than THIS.

I couldn't even hold a conversation with this person. Not, really.

OH, and 'O the Irony' #572?

If I TRIED to go back? If I TRIED to become 'educated'?




I'd fuckin' *BE* Jerri Blank. And that makes me sick to my stomach.

...and even Chuck Noblet is smarter than me. What's THAT tellya?





I get SO SO SICK of women at work who yammer on endlessly about their kids, their kids, this great recipe for whatnot and their kids..."Little Braden did this..and little Chelsea did that..", and wonder why they think that THAT is the ONLY thing that they've ever done of import and is THEREFORE...ALL THERE IS.

I mean, even cockroaches can procreate. I did. Twice. But I just can't imagine that there isn't MORE.

It's the only thing I've ever wanted. To be MORE.



...and then? I talked to Bev on the phone. Who's going through chemo for third-stage Hodgkins. And feel even WORSE.

The NERVE of me.

So, PLEASE. No sympathy.

Comments

[drowsyfantasy.livejournal.com]

A diploma/degree is a piece of paper that says you passed enough classes.

You've proved that you're smart enough to make it in the real world. Well done I say, and it doesn't matter about the college. Most of what's gained out of it these days is debt, anyway.

Kids are great. But yeah - as long as your pipes function, anybody can have kids. Having a child is not the be-all and end-all of a woman's life, or a man's life for that matter. In fact, having a child is not important - RAISING the child PROPERLY, once born, is more important, IMHO. Anyway, there's many bends in the road of life and children are just one of the many possibilities.

Finally, why does everyone around me know someone who has cancer right now? Love & support to your friend.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

a) It DOES matter, b) I've proved NOTHING. But thanks.

- and I will tell her. In a roundabout way so that she doesn't think I'm spreading her business on a global scale, lol.

[shoebox_addict]

I am so not being sympathetic in this comment.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

Thank you. :)

[shoebox_addict]

You're welcome. ^__^

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

*continues ranting about 'kids today who don't even WANT to be in college and hate it when I would DIE for the privilege, blah blah blah' - no offense, dear. Pat, pat.*

[shoebox_addict]

Lol, I know, it's okay. I'm one of the few who actually appreciates it. I know the kids you're talking about too, there are tons of them and it makes me sick.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

So. I guess the REAL question is: So, what am I gonna DO about this? Eh? :)

[shoebox_addict]

Well...it's all up to you, really. :)

[rickysbaby.livejournal.com]

I know what you feel about the SuperHomeMakers.

I love my children. I know I do. And I want to enrich their lives and help them to grow up to be amazing individuals. But their birth did not equal my death, and I cannot and will not live exclusively to be their mom. Because when they move out and on to lives of their own, I do NOT want that to be the death of me.

I get jealous sometimes when I hear about all the fun people had / are having in college because I just went to junior college which is like 13th grade. The university I went to for the last two years was on the junior college campus, and it was more like night school than college.

Anything you can learn in college you can learn on your own. I have studied major literary works on my own since graduation just for shits-n-giggles.

With the Internet, there is no end of stuff you can teach yourself. My suggestion is to pick up a couple of magazine subscriptions to scientific or news mags (Scientific American, Newsweeks, US News and World Report or something similar of repute that you want to learn about) and read them on your lunch breaks or on the can or at night before bed or whenever you can steal a moment. You could even make it a thing with DJ, reading an article together and discussing it.

Don't let a piece of paper or lack thereof make you feel uneducated. I KNOW you know a TON of dumbfucks that graduated from college or even graduate school. ::cough Mr President::

You are among the most intelligent and bright people I know.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

>> But their birth did not equal my death, and I cannot and will not live exclusively to be their mom. Because when they move out and on to lives of their own, I do NOT want that to be the death of me.

Oh, my fuckin' WORD WORD WORD.

>>. I have studied major literary works on my own since graduation just for shits-n-giggles.

One of the most fabulous things ABOUT you - and there *are* many, despite what you say..

>>You are among the most intelligent and bright people I know.

Bzuh. Coming from one such as yourself? One of the very few ppl I respect? Thank you.

But just, "lak;kjgaop[49ut7gajv pu3w954", you know?

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

See? I was so enthusiastic, I fucked up. LOL.

[rickysbaby.livejournal.com]

One of the things I like most about YOU.

<--also a spaz :D

[hierokeryx.livejournal.com]

people are weird. when i finally did get my ass to college i just got reminded that some people get really uncomfortable if you tell them that you dropped out of high school. so awkward being 'older' and having the 18 year olds ask me questions like, "So what did you do for the past eight years?" real puzzled like, because we all glide smoothly from prom to college to another four years at a university wasting mommy and daddy's money as we try journalism, education, design and finally settle on something useless and nebulous like 'Corporate Commincations'. whatever the fuck that is.

but you know, you're right. there are people out there who are fighting just to live, so hell, it isn't that bad after all.

but oh yeah, just wanting more. i know. if there isn't more, then wtf are we doing this for? why are those people even bothering to procreate? wouldn't we just be better off going back to the forests and living... like cockroaches? i don't know.

i apologize if i don't make sense; apparently, i don't need to sleep anymore.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

>>if there isn't more, then wtf are we doing this for?

A-freakin'-MEN.

And DO NOT even get me STARTED on the women that utterly define themselves by the men in their lives. As if they'd die without one. Just. "......."

I am, and will ALWAYS be a malcontent.

...and eight years inbetween? Pish posh. The blink of an eye, dear. YOU keep it UP because FUCKALL, I actually really admire you and your fight for 'it'. Well, that, and your excellent taste. :)

[fnordine.livejournal.com]

I would like to point I have no college degree either.

And I went to China, lived one year on my own, my english is pretty good and... I feel I achieved more than my degree bearing friends ever would.

No, I don't wanna go back to college. I don't feel like I'm learning anything there.

Yes, I'm going back. 10 years later, but I need the damn paper.

Just pisses me off that I'm smarter than most people in the building.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

You fuckin' GO, grrl. I would LOVE to hear about China. Sincerely, and not just because of the Olympics. And your english is excellent - better than most Americans.

BUT GAH. YES. THE PIECE OF PAPER.

And I know that I'm at least 'average' in intelligence; I was just whiny and pissy because of GAH. I mean, LOOK at who I revere. GAH. I sure can pick 'em ;)

[fnordine.livejournal.com]

Well, it seems I score off the charts. No, not really. XD But if I was just a bit more intelligent (or what people perceive as inteligent), I would be on Mensa. :P

I used to say I'm too smart to see the point on going to college. (Yes, my ego is that big, why? XD XD XD You should already know, I'm a Keith Fan! XD)

I'm totally going to wipe my ass with my diploma, then ask for another one. Seriously.

*giggle* I can relate. I mean... Keith, right? :P Funny thing is that we both were lazy students, spending most of our times at home watching Monty Python. I just didn't have the strength to stay :P

Oh, Something I thought of saying before: I love Jerri for the fact she is willing to 'do it all again'. If you want to, for whatever reason you have, do it. Better regret doing something than not doing it, that's how I live :)

(Of course, Jerri is something else, so, you would be getting the best of her ;D)

China. The best of the times and the worst of the times. I loved every minute... Heh. I should tell you my adventures, both around here and in China. Would make you see me in a different light. ;)

Let's get together in im some day, me, you and Gaya... I'll tell you gals everything :D

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

>>Let's get together in im some day, me, you and Gaya... I'll tell you gals everything :D

I'm in! :D

[gayalithiel.livejournal.com]

There is so much I wanna say in response to this post, but other people said a lot of it as well as I could. For some reason your college fixation hits a nerve with me in that it reminds me of Michelle the Evil Medical Records Clerk ™ and the way she used to give me shit about having gone to college, like it should make me perfect or something. I think maybe people who haven't been to college imagine it as more than it is. Unless you go to a prestigious university, all it means is that you (or someone helping, if you're lucky) are paying for more years of school stuff to get a degree and be considered 'more hireable' or something. In a 4 year school the first 2 years are usually just more basic classes that have nothing to do with the field you want to major in. I walked away from college with a degree, a license and complete ignorance about the real world. The most valuable things I learned were once I was out in the field and DOING, not in the classroom. In fact, as I look back now, I can't think of too many things that college gave me a big leg up on. It just opens doors, jobwise.

Also? My husband has no college degree...and he makes the same amount as I do, with a college degree and almost 20 years experience. So I ask you, where is the justice in that?

Furthermore, no college-educated man worth talking to would snub someone because they hadn't gone to college. If they did...they weren't worth talking to in the first place because that would make them SHALLOW. There are brilliant people everywhere who never went to college. Some who never got past 8th grade! It ain't everything.

But I won't pretend it's not important to you, because it obviously is. A college degree might've offered you better career opportunities...but it wouldn't have made you a lick smarter than you are right now. *Hand up to God*

♥

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

*flails*

*panics, runs around in circles*

YES, IT WOULD! I KNOW IT WOULD!

(Issue of the Day #936)

♥

[piratesorka.livejournal.com]

The most noble, humble sweet woman I know does not have the paper degree. She survived a wretched marriage to one of the most narissitic of men, divorced his sorry ass, had people she loved on his family side turn their backs on her and she still loves and misses them

She makes close to 90k a year and gives a good portion of it away. She dresses simply in inexpensive clothes. Marerial things are not important to her. She is a natural beauty inside and out. Yet she always thinks she is not good enough because of that damm paper

You two are sisters, I swear. Just different circumstances and style.
There are taxi drivers with doctorates driving around. Paper is just paper. The heart, mind and spirit , the true character of a person is what truly matters. LIfe has a much harder degree to obtain.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

You brat; you made me teary.

*squishes*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_lyra_b/]

College...meh.

Neither Steve Jobs not Bill Gates finished college and look where it got them! Besides, you are more 'educated' in life than almost anyone I know.

So there.

And yeah, boo to women who live vicariously through their kids. Please, God, don't let me turn into one of them.

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

Never. Never ever ever ever can I see that happening. You've way too much sense and SOUL, grrl.

Fish Karma

[marrissabelle.livejournal.com]

I want to beat you with a wet fish sometimes!!!! You can do anything you want to, you just can't be a CHICKEN. You are scared because you MIGHT fail. And you won't. I can spot failure potential 43 miles away and you. will. not. fail. You've fallen into a comfort zone (despite the fact that it is completely uncomfortable).

And just because you work your ass off doesn't mean you aren't lazy. LAZY CHICKEN. How do _I_ know? Uhm, cause I was a lazy chicken, too.

I know I am going to have to fly there with some resume paper, make a resume, POST IT FOR YOU, call the school, find out what you need to do to do whatever you want to do and *sigh* You are so pig-headed sometimes! (read: all the time)

There are no unconquerable (how's THAT for educated?) obstacles. Money is not an obstacle. Time is not an obstacle. You can do it, Duffy Moon! I've offered my help before, but then, I didn't have a wet fish. ;)

Let's do something about this. You have tons of people who care about you to help.

I love ya. Bawk. Bawk.

Re: Fish Karma

[indiwise.livejournal.com]

Hehehehheh, bawk, bawk.

Missy Dash 'O Ice-Cold Water? I spoke to my DON this morning about starting to maybe slowly rearrange my schedule - a) so I can do, 'Circle of Friends' - an activities program with our most violent/demented residents, which are my loves, b) maybeeee open avenues for morning classes. At least begin - and maybe get a Gen Ed out of the way, just to get my feet wet. HOWEVER, I am the ONLY full-time/ten day pay schedule person on my shift, so...it may be awhile before this comes to fruition.

But I HAD to get the ball rolling - as, realistically, I am going to HAVE to work as I go.

You DO realize that this will mean the End of Teh Schmoke...but hey. We shall see.


SO I *DO* LISTEN. Love you. Thank you.